Monday, August 10, 2009

what a strange fetish - science fiction - science-based fiction. watchin the animatrix, i couldnt help but notice how it made me feel. i only had time to be forced to notice it when i went to the washroom to take a leak. i felt like things were possible, a coolness. the only thing i can think of that took me to a place like that before science fiction, was probably "kung-fu movies", ok - "martial arts movies", like "Enter the Dragon". (i am NOT putting the period inside the quotation marks. or the parentheses. or the brackets. the parentheses and brackets usually are contained within a sentence, and therefore will not contain the period, but rather the period will follow them, concluding the sentence, goddammit.) (the exception being the "aside" parentheses, containing a whole sentence, or several, that might be a commentary rather than part of the story - hence the parentheses - and so the sentences behave "normally", but these "asides" are demarcated by the parentheses. whether the period should be inside the parentheses or outside, should not be a rigid rule, but rather be dictated by whether or not the parenthesized content was itself a whole, a unit - um, i think i'm typing out my ass and so should check this out on wikipedia before opening my big keyboard.

um, i found in wikipedia that i had no idea of what i was talking about. in american english there is a convention or standard of having the period at the end of a sentence always inside the quotation marks, if there is a quotation at the end of the sentence, regardless of whether the period was actually included in the original of what was quoted. unless we're talking scientific or technical writing - then no. ( hehe, awesome sentence.) this rule was developed as a result of the need to protect the small and fragile pieces of type like the period and the comma behind the bigger and stronger quotation marks in the printing press.
and apparently the british convention is to use logical quotation.
and all this time i thought it was about parentheses - silly me :)
but i did find out that the british dont say "period" but rather "full stop", which in turn dispells some of my confusion about some of what the dopefiend says.
apparently "full stop" is sometimes used in canada, but i havent noticed. yet another word fallen victim to americanization here. right after chesterfield.

back to the main body, omitting parentheses and all, for now - martial arts movies and many sci-fi movies have made me feel like maybe more in life is possible than i've been led to believe. i wonder if anybody's done a study on what kind of class of people, what kind of personality trait is necessary to go for this sort of entertainment. what causes some people to be completely enthralled by this sort of communication, as opposed to ppl who love wwe wrestling.

what is it that makes us geeks?

4 comments:

phx said...

awesome post. dizzying, but awesome. how i love you. :) blogging about parentheses, right up my nerdy alley.
using quotations still messes me up, but for parentheses, i follow 2 possible situations, and usually it's just with regards to references... for work... but for normal text, if a full sentence was contained within parentheses then the period would be as well. but if what was contained within the parentheses was adding more detail at the end of a sentence, then the period would fall outside of the parentheses. But I think most additional detail at the end of a sentence would be separated by a comma, rather than enclosed by parentheses.

you lost me on the talk of typeface, but i'm very intrigued. i loved learning about typeface and printing in school.

as for sci-fi. you're weird. ;)

ghost said...

i don't know what makes us. probably a factory in the cold expanses of siberia, but i say fuck it. put the period wherever you want man. it's your world. the rest of us are just paying rent.

meznor said...

I LOVE the allocatedness of this entry. :D I often have trouble with that whole quotation-period bullshit. Don't get me started on commas inside or outside quotations. Whenever I think I have it right, someone tells me it's wrong, so I stop bothering to think about it anymore and just wait to be corrected by either grammar-nazi side.

As for sci-fi, do you know how Morpheus keeps his glasses on the bridge of his nose???

supertomek said...

i am excuzz me, my langvidge not so guud, but vat diz allocatedeness?

regarding odd places for punctuation marks, i've heard of the weird "inside quotation marks" thing, and thought it didnt feel right, but when i was writing that post it finally occurred to me to check with the all-knowing wikipedia, and found out there's more than one convention and the reasons those conventions developed. so check it out urself and give those quotation nazis a fat lip when you tell them how it is and why. i dont like it when ppl really get worked up about some things being "right" only a specific way, and everything else is wrong and downright evil. i'm fond of saying that language is a living thing (to which a buddy of mine once said "only if you're black!" :D).

Morpheus keeps his glasses on with sheer willpower. he is the black incarnation of chuck norris :)
i thought those glasses just had flexible nose pads that kinda clipped onto your nose. yeah.